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...Grant Dalton has vowed to invoke a nationality clause and slash the costs of competing by around 50 per cent if Team New Zealand win the America's Cup in San Francisco this year.

The winners of the cup not only earn hosting rights, they also control the rules of the regatta.

Dalton says there are two major changes that need to be made to save the famous event.

"We stand for nationality rule and we stand for real budget numbers that real people can raise."

The Emirates Team New Zealand boss says a nationality clause is needed to make it a genuine country versus country battle, rather than pitting billionaire against billionaire. Cup defenders Oracle Team USA have just two Americans - Rome Kirby and tactician John Kostecki - in their sailing team, while Swedish challengers Artemis have one Swede in their crew.

But the only way to attract more international entrants is to significantly reduce the costs of competing, according to Dalton.

He estimates budgets need to be kept to well under $20 million a year for commercially funded teams to be viable.

"You have to frame your rules around a realistic number, then you'll get your competitors back."

Helmina a écrit :PS. L'éc, tu peux changer le titre, balader le sujet... éventuellement en faire un plus global... comme tu vois (ou ne vois pas !) dans la dimension É.B !

Why won’t we see the AC72 ever again?

Have you ever been sitting on a jet at an airport and a Concorde has taken off in front of you? The roar and the blue flames coming out of the back of it, and you think, holy crap this is unbelievable. And it is, but the problem is that it’s completely uneconomic as the Concorde proved. But when you watch it take off, and the ground thunders under it, it’s insane. And these boats are like that, but the problem is that there completely unsustainable.

It’s not just the cost; it’s about the fact that if you haven’t got it just perfect, the thing will break up like a tree house. It’s just not reachable by normal syndicates. You’ve ended up with the two top syndicates in the world, and they’re the only ones that have been able to sustain it, or even get there effectively. The Concorde is cool too, but it didn’t make it, and these boats unfortunately, and I think fortunately frankly, just aren’t going to make it into the next Cup, not in my view.

If you were to win, what do you envision for the next America’s Cup class?

My preference would be a smaller monohull or a very fast multihull. When these boats (AC72) started racing, there has been this awakening ‘wow thing’ to a lot of people. So there has been this waxing and waning toward big fast multihulls in terms of public perception. But that will again wax and wane, and in a few months time, people will have forgotten that.

What I can say, and I have probably given it more thought right now than I have ever given it, that we will consult heavily and see what the world wants. Because the problem we have had is a dictatorship where we just get told what we are going to sail. In the end if you had democracy, everyone would have an idea and you wouldn’t get anything done. But I want to know what people who are going to join the Cup, syndicates that are real – and I know they’re real because I know the people who have already contacted me if we won – what they want. I am not just going to tell them, that’s not the right way to do it. I want to know what the world wants to sail.

In terms of syndicates interested in competing in Auckland, talk at this stage is cheap. But definitely Luna Rossa, and Ernesto Bertarelli has contacted me a few times, and there is a strong American syndicate, not Oracle, another one that has reached out to me.

Team NZ

* $5 million in Govt interim funding.

* Team NZ asked for $6.5 million.

* Investment means only 40 per cent of 110 employees can be kept.

* Govt paid a third of the total funding raised in last campaign. That came to $36 million.

...Dalton also made it clear that Barker would continue to be skipper in the present while also morphing into a sailing director's role. That leaves the question of skipper open in the long term and Dalton said: "Peter Burling may ultimately be the best thing this country has ever seen - but he is not there yet. If Dean Barker is not driving the boat in 2017 - and Dean will be very much involved in that decision - Peter Burling will have to take it from him....

Dam a écrit :Je n'avais pas suivi ces débats là, mais ton point de vue m'étonne (ça nous fera un débat de plus).
Le but d'une compétition comme celle-là c'est de consacrer les meilleurs jeunes. Si lui, aussi jeune, avait déja barré des AC45 avant, c'est tout simplement qu'il a déjà de "l'avance" sur les autres de sa génération.
C'est donc normal qu'il dispute (et gagne) les compétitions de jeunes et ce serait le monde à l'envers qu'il en soit écarté sous prétexte qu'il est déjà trop fort.

gloups a écrit :

Dam a écrit :Je n'avais pas suivi ces débats là, mais ton point de vue m'étonne (ça nous fera un débat de plus).
Le but d'une compétition comme celle-là c'est de consacrer les meilleurs jeunes. Si lui, aussi jeune, avait déja barré des AC45 avant, c'est tout simplement qu'il a déjà de "l'avance" sur les autres de sa génération.
C'est donc normal qu'il dispute (et gagne) les compétitions de jeunes et ce serait le monde à l'envers qu'il en soit écarté sous prétexte qu'il est déjà trop fort.

Pourtant c'est ce qui se passe au fooot non avec l'equipe espoir et l'equipe de france non ?

Helmina a écrit :Le peu de débat a eu lieu ici, ce n'est que quelques pages à parcourir Topic RBYAC

Dans le cadre de la RBYAC avec nouveau support spécifique et temps d’appropriation contrôlé, c'était de la foutaise. Je maintiens.

doublemexpress a écrit :Youth AC .... c'est pas Novice AC !
ca reste une compétition et pas l'école des fans !